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southy

You're forgetting about their nuklar wepons capabilities; that's their membership card into the Axis of Evil.

Homosexuality and Abortion Rights would be cause to further alienate them in the eyes of the current US administration.

Ghostdog

Southy, you seem to forget that the illustrious group of countries that have nuclear weapons includes: Britain, China, France, India, Pakistan, Russia, and the United States. All of these countries including us should then also be included into the Axis of Evil.

Iran and North Korea are aiming to become nuclear states, but are not there yet. The lesson from Iraq is that you had better go nuclear to keep the US from invading and occupying you. Thus Iraq, with no weapons is attacked, and North Korea is left alone.

Leila

vry good points

Tony

A point of information. Fundamentalist is an inexact term, but so is the phenomenon that the term attempts to describe. It's true that historically, fundamentalism referred to a Protestant movement in the US that included, among other things, belief in the inerrancy of the Bible, and a "list of fundamentals" that one must believe to be a good Christian. I take your point about Muslim belief in the inerrancy of the Qur'an.

However, I think the hallmark of fundamentalism is not so much a belief in the inerrancy of one's scripture (although that's a prerequisite), but a devotion to a literalist understanding of that scripture. Literalist interpretations are always exclusivist and narrow, and intolerant of alternatives (ignoring for the moment that one word in English can have multiple literal meanings; that goes double for Arabic in my non-native speaker understanding). In the Sunni Muslim experience, that literalist approach extends to the problematic world of ahadith, and a very selective reading of fiqh (how many Salafis understand or even recognize the difference between Shari'ah and fiqh). In that sense of a literalist, exclusivist, and intolerant approach to religion, I think the term fundamentalist is appropriately applied to some Muslim perspectives.

To return to premise of your post, I don't know enough about the Iranian experience or Shi'a Islam to say whether fundamentalist is an appropriate term for Iran.

Rachel

I did guess Iran; I'm pleased I was right. :-)

islamoyankee

You know Tony, I used to think about literalism as being a good alternative way of describing what we call fundamentalism with respect to the Islamic tradition. However, someone pointed out to me that a literalist reading of the Qur'an actually gives the widest latitude in formulating laws because less than 5% of the Qur'an actually deals with legislative details. A literalist reading would be more liberal than conservative. I think with the Islamic tradition what's going on is both a selective reading of the texts and ignorance of history and interpretative framework. I'm not sure that falls into the realm of fundamentalism. I would argue from a Sunni perspective, it is much more bida (innovation) than a return to "fundamentals."

Teeluca

Would that the Qur'an were the only source for laws. A literalist Qur'an-only approach perhaps would justify a wider reading, but what do we do with hadith and the reams of juridicial writing? I do agree with you that what's going on today is bida and thoroughly modernist.

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