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Rachel

What really terrifies me is the way that this is becoming the symbol of America worldwide. People who already had some legitimate anger against the general disparity of power between the nations could easily latch on to this as proof that America is corrupt at best, evil at worst. And that jackass in the White House isn't doing anything about it, which makes me so angry I lose coherency.

Demi

Islamoyankee is much calmer than I am about all of this.

What concerns me is that even if those 18-year-olds or twenty-something soldiers are young, the way they have behaved had to have come from somewhere. Things don't occur in a vacuum, even if the persons involved are under stress.

Something has become poisonous in our US culture, something evil and twisted that gave birth to the poisonous fruit we've seen from the stories out of the Iraqi prisons. And we--the civilians here at home, who contribute to this culture--have allowed it to happen.

I really don't buy the "But they hit us FIRST!" type of argument that I hear from a few people by way of "justifying" the despicable and blasphemous actions our soldiers have been up to. That is the weakest defense of all. One is only responsible for one's own actions, not the actions and choices of another. And we are held accountable for what we do. The biggest joke of all is that a lot of the hotshots in D.C. claim to be "Christian." No way. They've concocted something that takes some Christian beliefs, reforms them to suit their own political strategies and lusts for power, and totally perverts them to conform to some very twisted ends.

What that "biblical" crowd is doing to Christianity is closer to the way Shinto was transformed and politicized in Japan before the Second World War: where a perfectly innocent and simple religious tradition was co-opted, twisted, and made to serve militaristic and nationalistic ends rather than the Creator.

And besides, the last time I looked, we had a **secular** government, not a theocracy. That's how it's supposed to work, anyway.

Some of us have become physically ill at the latest reports of "Christian" behaviors and comments out of the Iraqi prison scandals. Literally physically ill. I do not claim them as "Christian," not for one instant. Blasphemy is more like it.

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